60 DEGREE

Re: 60 DEGREE

Chuck Zirkle — Sun, 14 Sep 2014 15:16:29 GMT

Lou G........Ummmmmm.....isn't that called the "s" word....the old hosel rocket......my pro told me to put more weight on my heels and that would eliminate that........in my circle that is called a "chucker".....they just show up out of nowhere......

Re: 60 DEGREE

Lou G — Thu, 11 Sep 2014 18:18:17 GMT

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I used to have an issue with full shots on both a 58 and 60 (where you would spank them).

I did OK with a Cleve 58 and 64 in 2009 because they were 35.25".

Once I adjusted the lie angles on Vokey 58 and 60 to 65*, they worked like a charm. I played with a 60-10 for over a year and a half until after the winter rains this year made the practice bunkers like concrete. I switched to a 58-06 and my sand shots out of hard or wet bunkers has improved.

I have a go to shot at 65 yards with the 58-06: I choke down 1/2" and take a full swing. Great for the courses with harder greens.

I have been carrying a 64 degree wedge of some sort since 2006.

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If you think about it for a minute, the 9 iron has a 36" shaft length and 64* lie angle. The 58 and 60 are 35" with a stock lie angle of 64*..... that would be like choking down on the 9 iron or playing a club a degree flat. I have my 54 set to 1/2* upright and the 58 and 64 are 1* upright..... work like a charm. I used to have a problem with the ball shooting off right on a full swing with the 58 and 60.

Re: 60 DEGREE

Chuck Zirkle — Thu, 11 Sep 2014 14:33:16 GMT

Was watching Michael Breed the other day on Golf Channel and he was discussing short chip shots and his wedges and I believe he said the his most lofted is either a 56 or a 58.......found that interesting.....he sure works it well.......

Re: 60 DEGREE

JAMES S — Wed, 10 Sep 2014 22:35:05 GMT

THANKS FOR ALL THE IMPUT. I SPEND SOME TIME AT THE RANGE (GRASS NOT MATS) AND ON THE COURSE WITH THE 60 DEGREE.

IT IS NOW MY " GO TO " CLUB AROUND THE GREENS AS WELL AS OUT OF TRAPS (WHEN I HAVE A GOOD LIE) . IT WORKS SO WELL, I AM THINKING OF GIVING IT A SPECIAL NAME.......HOW DOES " BLUE ICE" GRAP YOU?

Re: 60 DEGREE

Chuck Zirkle — Wed, 03 Sep 2014 19:12:57 GMT

Sorry, Mike, I meant to say "average player"......there are a lot of single digit handicappers that play well with the 60*......just remember that only 5% of those playing golf ever break 100, and I see many of those guys with 60* wedges in their bags.......maybe I should choose my words more carefully......my bad....and it does require a lot of range time because it requires a lot of soft hands.......yeah, that wandering game is a terrible thing and gets us all in trouble...."they call me the wanderer".....that might make a good song.......when I warm up in the am, it's always with a wedge and a hybrid......just to get good and loose on the range then a chip or two around the green and a few putts......chuck

Re: 60 DEGREE

Mike C — Tue, 02 Sep 2014 21:57:52 GMT

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What are you thoughts on the K grind?

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I generally play a 60M hand ground with a pro groove in the bottom that gives it just a little extra bounce. I live in Texas where we have a lot of tight lies. If it is really wet, or I am playing on softer conditions when traveling, I will sometimes use a 60 TVD K for the added bounce and different sole for better turf interaction.

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Agree with this statement.....everyone wants to play like the pros......the 60* is not for the everyday player......

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I have to disagree with a lot of the comments that the 60 degree wedge is for the pros and not the average player. I carry an 8 handicap and I love my 60 degree wedges. You can do anything with these clubs. I think the key to this, which was echoed by many of the commenters who had favorable comments about the 60 degree wedge, is to practice a ton with the club to become more consistent and confident. I probably spend too large of a percentage of my time practicing in the short game area with this club but it is one of the facets of the game I really enjoy. I can also tell if I have not been practicing, or have a couple of bad shots with the 60, the confidence can wander and then you are in trouble.

Re: 60 DEGREE

Chuck Zirkle — Tue, 02 Sep 2014 12:20:00 GMT

Agree with this statement.....everyone wants to play like the pros......the 60* is not for the everyday player......

Re: 60 DEGREE

Norris — Mon, 01 Sep 2014 22:57:34 GMT

Gordon, I now have the same setup as you (50*-54*-58*) and an very happy with my wedges now. By dropping my wedges by just 2* has made all the difference in my wedge game.

Re: 60 DEGREE

NCBob — Mon, 01 Sep 2014 21:51:07 GMT

Unless you are a pretty good single digit player you probably should not be playing a 60. Everyone tries to imitate whats on TV when their game is no where near that level. It pains me to watch kids try a 60,62 or whatever. The pros spend hours everyday working on their short game, are you? If not stay with a 56 and you will hit a lot more quality shots.

Re: 60 DEGREE

Gordon B — Mon, 01 Sep 2014 15:52:42 GMT

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James, I had the same problems. My 60* was my love/hate club. I never knew what it was going to do, so I couldn't trust it, especially short shots from the rough, or fairway. Then I got a Vokey 58* wedge, and that solved my problems. Just that 2* less loft made all the difference. I never scull it and it's great from 50-55yds. out, and great for short chips, and pitches. I hit it high from the fairway with a soft landing, so I can go for the pin without a lot of rollout. If you can't get the 60* to workout for you, try a 58*.

[/quote] Have to second this. I had all the above mentioned problems with a 60. Couldn't hit it for distance, fluffed shots from deep rough, and really was just carrying an extra club. Even started using 56* from bunkers. Switched my wedge makeup from 52-56-60 to 50-54-58 and all is good. Went further and kept the bounce up on the 54, but went down to 4* on the 60-can catch the ball clean from ANY lie, and short, high bunker shots are a snap.

Re: 60 DEGREE

Allen L — Tue, 26 Aug 2014 22:17:44 GMT

My son has a 60 and he plays it well, I tried his out a couple times and thought that having an in close wedge for flop shots around the green and for digging out of thick greenside rough would be a good addition. So I added a 62 and it took a lot of practice, and learning just when this club needs to come into play. My first bag of balls were probably 75% skulled. Right now the 62 isn't nearly as versatile for my game as my 50 or 56 degree wedges. The 62 does shine coming out of thick rough around the green, the ball hits and has a nice roll out. It is pretty good for fairway shots from about 40 yards in when you need altitude and a soft landing, but this simple looking shot took a lot of practice. I'm still figuring out this club. For now it stays in the bag and I'll keep working at getting better with it.

Re: 60 DEGREE

Tyler H — Tue, 26 Aug 2014 14:21:10 GMT

[quote user="Penguin Power"]

My 60* is my goto layup distance. My 60 goes 80-85 yards. If I need to hit it close I can always rely on my 60. It is a great tool once you get used to using one. Range time is the key. Good luck!

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What are you thoughts on the K grind?

Re: 60 DEGREE

Chuck Zirkle — Mon, 25 Aug 2014 21:29:03 GMT

When I was younger I even carried a 64* but as age has become my best friend I have gone away from the more lofted clubs. As stated earlier, 56.10 is the most lofted club I carry now and it works great for this old man. Checks nicely and can put a lot of air under it when I need to. Guess it all boils down to choices, feel and confidence. And those vokeys are sweeeeeeeeet wedges, I might add......especially those new SM5s......

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Jesse P — Fri, 22 Aug 2014 19:29:12 GMT

When I was hitting a full shot with my 60 I would move the ball a bit more towards the back of my stance. That always worked for me. Since then I have taken out my 60 (and 56) and put in a 58. Worked wonders for me.

Re: 60 DEGREE

Rick R — Thu, 21 Aug 2014 00:26:29 GMT

By far the funnest club in my bag. Deadly from 50-60 yards with sky high loft, or a nice stinger into the green depending on conditions. Open the face up and hit it straight up in the air almost popping me in the nose. Tons of fun and confidence comes from a 60* with a lot of practice, and a little bit of touch.

Re: 60 DEGREE

Lou G — Wed, 20 Aug 2014 21:01:32 GMT

I used to have an issue with full shots on both a 58 and 60 (where you would spank them).

I did OK with a Cleve 58 and 64 in 2009 because they were 35.25".

I have a go to shot at 65 yards with the 58-06: I choke down 1/2" and take a full swing. Great for the courses with harder greens.

I have been carrying a 64 degree wedge of some sort since 2006.

Re: 60 DEGREE

Norris — Wed, 20 Aug 2014 00:10:37 GMT

AMEN to your decision Tom. Sounds like you found a good use for your 60*.

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Norris — Wed, 20 Aug 2014 00:07:07 GMT

You are exactly right Chuck, but then again, Zach, PM, and Stevie S. are masters with any wedge in their hands. Those 3 guys don't need to be able to hit the long ball as long as they have those wedges in their hands. Makes me soooo jealous.

Re: 60 DEGREE

Norris — Wed, 20 Aug 2014 00:01:18 GMT

Not sure if that's what makes my 58* easier or not, but it could be for some folks, since some wedges have different bounces than others. My 60* has 10* bounce, and my 58* has 8* bounce. All I know for sure is I've called my 60* some very ugly names in the past, but after I switched to my 58* I can usually depend on my 58* to do what I want it to do.

Re: 60 DEGREE

ben l — Tue, 19 Aug 2014 14:13:21 GMT

James S,

For me it's the hands that get in the way. This is what works for me. I added extra tape on my wedge 1/64 or 1 extra wrap. I also swing with more weight stacked on my front foot (70 /30 distribution). I use my 58 degree around the greens or on tight lies inside 60 yards. Everyone is different, you just need to try what works for you.

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Penguin Power — Tue, 19 Aug 2014 13:18:03 GMT

My 60* is my goto layup distance. My 60 goes 80-85 yards. If I need to hit it close I can always rely on my 60. It is a great tool once you get used to using one. Range time is the key. Good luck!

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James E — Tue, 19 Aug 2014 13:15:37 GMT

Also, sometimes the reason a 58* is easier to play vs a 60* is the bounce on the club. Typically there is more bounce on a 58* than a 60*. That could be another reason why some find it easier to hit.

Re: 60 DEGREE

Chuck Zirkle — Tue, 19 Aug 2014 13:04:12 GMT

I can see that a lot of us agree that the 60* is not for the average player like the majority of us.......the pros play it with ease.......it requires a lot of touch/feel.........Zach and PM are masters with those lofts........

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Dan S — Tue, 19 Aug 2014 03:10:24 GMT

Add me to the list that went to a 58*. With the 60* I came up short a lot, like others said 2 degrees make a difference.

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Tom B — Mon, 18 Aug 2014 23:50:19 GMT

I made an agreement with My 60 (another brand). I don't bother him and he doesn't bother me. Had same problem and inconsistency. It now sits at the back door to be used to retrieve the dogs leash if he doesn't come all the way back. Went to a Vokey 58 and then a Vokey SM5 58, and can do anything with it. Just open it up when I need a little more. Made all the difference in the world. The 60 happily minds the back door